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Posted on 14-Oct-2002 21:57 GMT by Daniel Miller116 comments
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MorphOS and the Pegasos alternative computer were demonstrated at Saturday's meeting of NCAUG, a Washington DC area user group. Be sure to check out the report.
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Report from USA Demo of Pegasos, MorphOS : Comment 114 of 116ANN.lu
Posted by Anonymous on 17-Oct-2002 13:22 GMT
In reply to Comment 109 (Anonymous):
>A Software Developer Kit is certainly _not_ a consumer product.
Well, out of the context I was referring to, then certainly it is not a consumer product in the traditional sense. I agree. But the issue was advertising and customer expectations based on said advertising. The SDK was sold to consumers. Anyone could buy it and no NDA/SDA was either mentioned or required. Just a free year of upgrades.
A certain breed of legislation comes into play when talking about consumers rights - and when a product targets a subset of consumers, individual developers that are not necessarily incorporated nor do they need to do more than accept an usual EULA, it effectively becomes a consumer product.
Amiga Inc. should have made the NDA requirement known beforehand. People, consumers and companies alike were mislead. This may have been unintentional, but it still happened. Some of those annoyed people are right here writing to this thread.
I'm sure legislation varies from country to country, but where I come from no company can go about selling stuff to individual customers, consumers, and choose not to respect their rights. And consumers do have more rights and protection than companies do.
This is the extent and context where I was referring to the SDK as a consumer product. It was sold in retail, in a box, with a pretty standard EULA, to regular people - anyone could buy it without signing any NDAs or SDAs. And then, all of a sudden, all upgrades require NDAs.
>It is fact that the AACE is not equivalent to the AmigaDE.
To address the rest of your response, I'd just like to acknowledge that I acknowledge your point. Not that I agree, but I do understand that you feel AACE/DEPlayer to be a subset of/separate from AmigaDE and therefore it is not a requirement that the SDK could be used to create software for that subset.
I just happen to think that is, in light of all said and done by Amiga Inc. concerning these products, simply weird. We were publicly encouraged to get the SDK to develop stuff for PDAs etc. back when, but now you say we should just accept that we can't (without getting into even more agreements).
So, I think we just have to agree to disagree, because I can't agree with your logic even if I see it. To me it is like saying "You can run Java content with your Java SDK, but if you want to run it on Java Runtime Environment, sign this please." I know that in the future there are plans to expand the DE into something more then just a content engine (and I'm sure some of that technology is already done), but I still feel this should have been made known to people before they purchased the SDK. Again, much of this is because of Amiga Inc.'s lackluster PR policy.
Amiga Inc. are controlling the only channel to any even remotely viable AmigaDE target market. The SDK is simply not such a channel, and by definition is not meant to be (hey, you said it, it is not a consumer product in that sense). Well, Amiga Inc. certainly are not the first to do this, there are people like Nintendo and even Commodore required licensing for CD32 titles.
But lets at least be open and honest about it. People who shelled out the hundred bucks for the SDK can not develop, and haven't been able to develop during the past two years, any content that is playable on a consumer oriented product without agreeing to and signing an SDA - and allowing Amiga Inc. to control the distribution.
That is not an assumption. That is not an opinion. That is the case. Whether one agrees with this policy, or thinks that Amiga have been misleading in their communications and advertising, is something I don't think I need to get into any further here.
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