[Rant] Freedom of speech is no more on a popular Amiga site. | ANN.lu |
Posted on 03-Feb-2004 15:32 GMT by Jordan Taylor | 238 comments View flat View list |
Today a so-called Amiga site which was supposed to allow freedom of speech has now become a exposed heavily censored website, webmasters acting like children insulting members of the site just because they stand up and say what they think.
I feel betrayed.
Check it out yourself here
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Freedom of speech is no more on a popular Amiga site. : Comment 182 of 238 | ANN.lu |
Posted by Wayne Hunt on 06-Feb-2004 04:04 GMT | In reply to Comment 181 (Raffaele): Raffaele,
Just as when you posted this initially, I fail to see any real point to your post. OF COURSE the existence of a site and forums is a two way street. Visitors depend on the site/Webmaster to provide the service. The Webmaster depends on the visitors to use it. No one is interested in running off ALL of the site's visitors or forum posters. What I am trying to get a very few "children" to understand is that forums are not their personal playground, and that "freedom of speech" does NOT equal "freedom to say whatever the hell you please, without consequence or responsibility".
If you have a problem with the fact that EVERY forum on the Web is moderated in some fashion or another, sell your computer. :-)
We're not saying that we have any interest whatsoever in interfering with someone's ability to freely express an opinion, but forums have topics -- even Amiga.org's DMZ has topics. What is the use of even having topics if the staff of the site has no authority to try to keep discussions focused on the topic at hand?
After all, why would anyone use a set of forums when searching for (as an example) "Problems with my CSPPC accelerator" leads visitors to a thread which veers off onto the tangent where people aren't talking about CSPPC accelerators at all?
Moderation is not something that our staff really wants to do. If absolutely everyone (without exception) in the community expressed themselves eloquently, used the forums responsibly, and stopped acting like spoiled twits, moderation would never be necessary. Unfortunately -- as with almost everything -- it's always that "1%" of childish morons (such as the spoofers and anonymous bashers in this thread) which make any moderation a necessary evil.
Keep in mind however that ALL Web sites are indeed private property, regardless of who owns them. Someone pays for it, someone owns it. There are no inaliable rights given to act like a twit (and no, I'm not calling you or anyone specific a twit) on private property.
Think of it this way. You may be an incredibly nice guy who loves having friends over to your house for dinner. Suppose I came over to watch "Survivor", then got pissed off because you ran out of beer and insulted your wife. I may have every right to say what I did, but in your house, you have every right to beat my ass and throw me out in the street. How are online forums (any online forums) any different?
If you're in someone's "house", even if you're there to bitch at them, you show respect. If you do not, you are not welcomed in their house. It's just that simple. It's not a mystery, and it's certainly not "rocket surgery".
Wayne |
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