[News] Pegasos G3 600 Mainboard 650 Euros | ANN.lu |
Posted on 22-Mar-2002 16:28 GMT by Sinan Gürkan | 202 comments View flat View list |
Sinan Gürkan wrote:
"German shop Veselia is advertising Pegasos Dual G3/G4 mainboard with G3/600 CPU from 650 Euros. They are also advertising AmigaOneG3-SE from 695 Euro.
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Pegasos G3 600 Mainboard 650 Euros : Comment 173 of 202 | ANN.lu |
Posted by Nicolas Sallin on 24-Mar-2002 19:15 GMT | In reply to Comment 159 (Ben Hermans/Hyperion): Yet another pure lie by Benjamin Hermans. It's really boring.
> Everybody knows that there were negotiations between the MorphOS team and Amiga for use of the Quark kernel.
Not only Quark.
> Everybody also knows that these negotiations didn't go anywhere because of unreasonable demands on the part of the MorphOS team (no source-code access to the kernel, no final say by Amiga etc.).
AmigaInc would have source code access to the kernel and the whole OS.
> Again, I repeat: if YOU just paid 4.5 million dollars for the AmigaOS and Amiga trademarks, would YOU be satisfied with anything less?
Please explain us what was the financial proposal between AmigaInc&bPlan and between AmigaInc&Hyperion. It will be VERY interesting to ANN readers. Oh, and please: tell the truth one time in your life.
> Would you want your OS to run on a kernel you don't have the source-code of?
No, that's why AmigaInc would have source code.
> Would you not insist on a final say regarding who works on what part of the OS, what technology goes in and what doesn't?
Yes, sure: "please drop your already working rtg graphics.library, stop all your work on pegasos (because old graphics.library doesn't work on it), and wait one, two, three, maybe six months another team does the same work"
And why all that ? Just for political reason.
>Would you accept that the same kernel would be used in the embedded space targeting traditional Amiga niches such as video-editing and kiosk systems?
>I know I wouldn't.
Quark is a micro kernel. Not a full blown kernel like vmlinux is. Since you are the project manager of an operanting system project, I guess you know the difference and you can see why your sentence doesn't really apply.
>Another dealbreaker was the conflict of interest which resulted from the fact that bPlan produced both hardware (Pegasos) and software (MorphOS).
>Somehow Amiga Inc. was expected to believe that bPlan would give equal and non-discriminatory software support to their competitors including Eyetech and Elbox.
>This is like expecting Microsoft to provide software support for the Playstation 2!
Try to apply that to yourself, and make your team working simultaneously on AmigaOS4 for CyberstormPPC/BlizzardPPC/AmigaOne/Pegasos/SharkPPC. Yeah, ask that to your lowlevel code team. And try to write your core OS as fast as it would be by just targeting one specific hardware.
>Amiga and its hardware partners insisted that MorphOS should be owned and developed by an independent legally entity and that additional safeguards should be put in place to ensure that every hardware vendor and not just bPlan would receive the same software support AT THE SAME TIME.
>This was not acceptable to the MOS team.
That's what you do when your OS is finished and well polished. Ok mister Hermans, try to finish at the same time your OS for every announced ppc hardware.
>With respect to OS 4: I can assure you that solid progress is being made and that your claims about only 1 full-timer working on it are completely incorrect.
Just another lie. Why couldn't you just say the truth ? Everybody can understand Amiga market is very small and Hyperion can't afford to 100% concentrate his effort on AmigaOS4.
At the moment, only one coder is working full time on ExecSG. And that's not a problem at all. It's only a problem if you start to say there are more people, just to write a bigger number than your direct competitor.
>Sure, we have around 30 independent contractors working on various aspects of the system in addition to 3 Hyperion staffers.
Ah, at last. A sentence without any lie. Thanks. |
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