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Posted on 19-May-2002 14:10 GMT by jah | 359 comments View flat View list |
i noticed a new video on aminet:
http://www.aminet.net/pix/mpg/Pegasos.mpg
"This is a demo video of bPlan's Pegasos computer. The video has been created by Thendic-France to give an impression of how the machine runs."
the download is still in progress, but i'm sure it will finish to convince all amiga users thats the ppc amiga they are waiting since years is finally arrived
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Posted by Janne Sirén on 20-May-2002 07:09 GMT | In reply to Comment 181 (Darrin): >Where is the double standard? The Eyetech AmigaOne is being released with
>LinuxPPC only. Any inclusion of a beta-OS4 has yet to be (publicly) confirmed.
I was discussing protection of intellectual property. You mentioned something along the lines of "why would anyone want to pay for MorphOS" if AmigaOS had been released for the machine earlier. I interpreted this as a reference to piracy, but I can now see that that may not have been the case. If it had been, clearly there would've been double standards there. Apologies for that one, if that wasn't the case. My other points still stand, though.
>If MorphOS is free then what "investment" is there to protect? The money is
>being made from the sale of the Pegasos board, so if you can sell a Pegasos
>board with OS4 to an Amiga fan then you have made exactly the same amout of
>profit as you would if you sell a Pegasos with MOS to a MOS fan.
Exactly. Doesn't that kind of take the bottom of from your argument that no-one would want to get MorphOS if they can already get AmigaOS 4.0 for the board? But there are other kinds of investments to protect there, namely the future and support of the said platform. If they have plans for MorphOS and want to try to secure a future for it, they may end up with some action to that end.
I'm not saying they are, just that they might. Amiga are doing their share for sure.
>That raises the question "Why don't bPlan want to sell Pegasos for use with >OS4?". Possible answers:
>1. They are so Anti_Amiga Inc that they wouldn't urinate on them if they were
>on fire.
>2. They are scared that a direct benchmark comparison between OS4 and MOS if
>run on the same hardware would show how inefficient MOS really is.
>3. They are not interested in making money. So expect them to fold as a
>company soon and leave all you Pegasos owners with no support/warantee.
How about, e.g.
4. Their development boards are not yet ready in numbers and MorphOS developers have the priority since bPlan wants to support their OS platform.
I find some of your suggestions pretty flammatory.
>If you have missed the public attacks of the past then you may have trouble
>understand my views. Did you see the email between Fleecy and a certain member
>of the Pegasos syndicate that was made public a few months back? It clearly
>showed that bPlan were trying to get Amiga Inc to stab Hyperion and Eyetech in
>the back and jump into bed with bPlan and MOS. Amiga Inc politely refused.
I saw that, yes, although I did not really see it as you did.
>Well, as I said earlier, Eyetech have the dev-boards in their hands, bPlan
>haven't even started a production run of dev-boards. Big difference.
Sure, and you still have trouble understanding why Hyperion haven't gotten their Pegasos development board yet? They still don't exist in numbers, even Hyperion claim to know so.
All I'm trying to say is, don't view bPlan as some sort of evil company. I'm pretty sure they are nothing like that. They are a business, sure, and they make business decisions, but then so does Amiga. We don't have to like everyone of them, and I'm pretty sure there are plenty in both camps some us find somehow objectionable.
>Hyperion then ordered such a board and publically announced their support of
>the Pegasos, but no dev-board was ever sent to Hyperion and then the
>propaganda war started again with the usual chemical warfare BS attack from
>bPlan and it's hired henchmen...
According to some sources MorphOS people also ordered an AmigaOne and still haven't gotten theirs. Even so, I wouldn't blame Eyetech for anything fishy. Just as I won't blame bPlan. Not at this time anyway.
Your rethoric on bPlan and their supporters really speaks volumes about your objectivity... "hired henchmen" etc. Please?
>Well, you could simply look back through the ANN/Amiga.org/etc archives or >simply stay tuned - they same old stuff reappears time and time again. :)
I do. Almost every day since Commodore went kaput.
>Now where's the fun in that?
I'm one who believes good-faith debate can be heaps of fun. Your mileage may vary.
But I don't think we are going anywhere with this. Lets get back enjoying the news! :-) |
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